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Timing is everything for some credit card paymentsWhat time is your credit card payment due? Yes, not what date is it due (though that, of course, is important). But do you know the cut-off time your credit card company sets for processing payments? For many credit card issuers, missing that cut-off time on the due date -- even if you miss it because of U.S. Postal Service problems or issues far beyond your control -- means they tack on a $39 late payment fee. What time is it? This little gem was in the fine print of a BP/Amoco Chase gas credit card: Please note: I have deliberately ENLARGED this print to call attention to it. You won't likely get this kind of service from the credit issuer. The type on the back of your monthly statement may be this big. Anyway, the "local time" in this case is Illinois (central time zone). The fine print goes on to say that if you don't follow the instructions for placing the payment stub in the envelope, including the account number on your check and making that out to the appropriate division, the payment could be subject to a 5-day delay before it is posted to your account. New disclosure rule The Fed wants to require credit card issuers to post cut-off times near the due dates on the FRONT of monthly statements if the deadlines fall before 5 p.m. Currently, there is no requirement for notifying cardholders about cut-off times, although many lenders provide this information on the back of the statement, often in teenie-tiny print. Victor Barry, a Chicago credit card owner, wrote the Fed: "I do believe they are trying to make their customers miss payments so they can extract their exorbitant fines and fees..." Lenders contend the current disclosure is clear. Some credit card issuers give customers a few days cushion before assessing late fees (referred to by Discover bank as a "silent" late fee grace period); other banks do not. Says the Fed: "Consumers would be able to make better decisions about when to make payments in order to avoid late-payment fees and default rates if earlier cut-off times such as 12:000 p.m. were more prominently disclosed." Not good enough, says the National Consumer Law Center, a Massachusetts-based non-profit consumer advocacy group. The group filed an 87-page comment with the Fed regarding a host of revisions in the disclosure rules (called Regulation Z). "Cut-off times offer creditors the opportunity to manipulate payments in order to increase late fees and penalty rates. They also cause consumers a high level of frustration and a sense of helplessness," the group contends. "In reported cases, creditors have used times as early as 9 or 10 a.m. as the cut-off time." Good enough for the IRS Consumers are slowly catching on to what's happening -- and they're angry about it. Colleen O'Hare told the Fed she pays her bills online but the payments are rarely posted on the day of her transaction. "I went into the Washington Mutual site to pay my credit card early in the morning on the date it was due and I was 'forced' to select the next business day as my payment date. I could not pay the same day without adding an 'express fee.' Because of the fact that I was forced to select the next business day, I was charged an exorbitant $39 late fee. This is an outrageous practice and I believe an unlawful practice of Washington Mutual’s. My American Express cards not only give me 10 days grace period without charging any late fee, but they also clear the same night that I submit my payment to them. The same holds true of my other credit card companies." Angela M. Stockton had a similar complaint: "I recently canceled an AT & T Universal Visa card after being a customer for over 20 years. I was irate that AT & T, which had used the 19th of the month as a due date for most of those years was gradually moving it earlier and earlier, until the last bill I received had a due date of the 14th. I'm convinced that they were counting on my not reading the due date so that I'd mail my payment late and they could charge me a late fee. My husband has a Chase Freedom MasterCard which has resorted to the same due-date creep...Credit-card companies should not be allowed to change due dates willy-nilly like this." See related articles: "Fed backs rules to curb deceptive credit card practices," "Credit card industry gets fire from Senate," "Study: Too much optimism leads to late credit card payments" 10 Comment(s)Leave a comment |
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I have a Meijer Credit card that is through GE Money Bank. My payment due date is usually the 4th or 5th of the month. Dec. I had 2 due dates. 12/5/07 and 12/30/07. Naturally I paid the 12/5/07 on time but didn't pay the 12/30/07 on time I paid it 1/2/08 which would have been on time had they not changed the due date. I hadn't noticed the change on the bill. For this I had a $29.00 late fee and defalte rate went to 28.40%.I am sure they did this on purpose. Dec. is a financial drain on most people and also a very busy time. I am sure they knew most people would not notice they changed the date since they put "Days This Period" as 30, which was a lie. It was 25 days. Some how I think this is fraudlent.
Barbara,
Did you try calling the customer service number and asking to speak to a supervisor? They may take the late fee off. They may also roll back the interest rate hike.
A default after just one late payment? You can request that they reduce the rate to previous levels and then close the account. Worth checking with them about this. How long have you been a customer?
Take a look at this Ask The Credit Guy column on opting out of credit card increases: http://www.creditcards.com/opt-out-credit-card-rate-increase.php
I have two credit cards that pull yet a different scam with time when scheduling online payments. Old Navy and JCPenney both have time cutoffs for payments, which is standard, however the cutoff time only applies the DAY BEFORE your payment is due. I just paid my bill at 3:01 PM and they are allowing it to post tomorrow, it's not due for another week. However, if the bill was due tomorrow, they would NOT allow you to select tomorrow as a payment date, you would have to select the following day which would incur late fees. It's even worse if your payment is due on a Monday, better make sure you pay it by Thursday, because if you try to pay Friday after Noon the earliest date you can select is Tuesday. Again, this ONLY applies if your payment is due the next day. If your going to have a rule it should work on all days and not just the days they can charge you a late fee. This is clearly a scam if you ask me, they can process payments quickly on one day but not another???? Right...... Customer service would not reverse the late fees on either account.
I paid a payment to Chase 1 day early only to get a letter scolding me that I missed a payment on the following statement. Calling to ask what was up with that I was told that the payment was made before the end of the last period and therefore did not count as a payment during the current period. So in effect they told I missed one months payment as I missed the due date. They did not charge a late fee however I was warned that it was removed and it would count as my one time ability to get a fee removed. I know this is confusing but so are all of the charges/fees and justifications they use to support them. So, you can't pay early and you can't pay late.
I used to have a credit card from Capitol One and they were horrible!! I would mail my payment with plenty of time for it to get where it needed to go. Unfortunately they continually told me the payments were late. Funny how the payments were received before the due date when i PAID the post office to track the letter! Even more money wasted on a money wasted on a dishonest company.
i have a card from hscbc or account central and i paid my balance off on the due date instead of the minimum and then they hit me with a 39 dollar fee ,i called to complain about an unauthorized transaction nobody got back to me they are real time crooks!help!
Chege, I'm not sure what your balance was on the card that you paid off, but this might be an issue of residual interest: http://www.creditcards.com/credit-card-news/credit-card-residual-interest-1268.php
I paid a BP Amoco bill online the date it was due. They posted it the next day and charged me a $29 late fee. I have cancelled the card and will not pay that fee. They are attempting to defraud me and I am not going to concede defeat for something so blatantly wrong.
A deal is a deal, except when the big shots decide they ended up on the wrong side of the deal they promoted. Humans need to live with the consequences of their actions rather than make other people feel responsible for their mistakes. What you sow is what you reap.
I have a Chase credit card and made my payment online the date it was due. They charged me a late fee, when I called to have it reversed the said I didn't meet their cut off time so I got charged the late fee. They tried to tell me that the banks were closed at the time I paid it , HOWEVER, banks are never truly closed. Transactions online are instant.